
Bonnie Bramlett
It’s another edition of the one that got away. This interview with blues/rock legend Bonnie Bramlett was conducted in April 2008, and will feature in issue 49 of Blues Matters!
It’s also worth pointing out that Delaney sadly passed away in December 2008.
But enough of my yacking…
They say if you remember the 60s, then you weren’t there, but Bonnie Bramlett can remember everything and she was smack dab in the middle of it all. As a teenager growing up in St Louis, she sang with Ike and Tina Turner, Albert King and Little Milton, but when she moved to California things really got interesting. As one half of Delaney and Bonnie, she became one of the biggest female blues singers in America. When the band and her marriage to Delaney came to end, she released a series of solo albums, including one with the Average White Band. Over the years, she has also turned her hand to acting and still sings and records. Blues Matters! caught up with her to talk about her new record, Janis Joplin, Jim Morrison and some guy called Eric Clapton.
BM: Congratulations on the new record “Beautiful”. You’ve teamed up again with producer Johnny Sandlin, who produced two of your big LPs in the 70s.
Bonnie: It’s great to back with him. We’ve been in touch. I’ve been to a lot of his sessions. He calls on me quite often, but it was so good to get back in the studio with him
You have a stella cast backing you on this record, including your daughter Bekka Bramlett and Randall Bramblett.
Absolutely! Randall wrote two of the songs. He wrote ‘Shake Something Loose’ and ‘Witness For Love’. He sang a duet with me. Doesn’t he sound good?
What was it like singing with your daughter?
That’s the hardest thing to answer! Because it gets asked a lot, like what was it like working with Eric Clapton? It’s so unique. To me, it’s like riding in a Cadillac as opposed to riding in a Bentley. It’s just an easier ride, because we’ve all grown into our talent.
There are also covers by Stephen Stills and other songwriters. How did you choose what went on the album?
When I stopped thinking about making a hit album, which happened a few years back, it really released me. I’m able to stick to my guns. All my work is my work. If you notice, all the writers are from the old school. It just fell into place.
How long did it take to put together?
Oh not long! We did two days cutting tracks and three days vocals. I sing while they’re cutting. You want to be there when the energy is in the room. Johnny had more work.
What’s the track you are most proud of?
That’s a hard one to pick, but the one which means the most to me is ‘Some Of My Best Friends’. The writer Gary Cotten is from around Nashville. He’s had this song for a long time and no one would touch it with a ten foot pole! I told him six years ago I would do it. I loved that one. I loved ‘For What It’s Worth’ by Stephen Stills. I think he’s probably one of the greatest songwriters who ever walked this earth.
You actually grew up in St Louis and started singing when you when you were very young, and you used to hang out with people like Herbie Mann and Stan Getz.
There was a place at the time called Gaslight Square. It was pretty much like Bourbon Street in the French Quarter (New Orleans – JH). It was where everyone worked. It was strange for a young girl my age being able to carry a song vocally, so I was intriguing to everybody. Everyone would come in. It wasn’t like a hung with them, because I was too young. My dad and mother would pick me up and took me home straight away. I wasn’t able to go to breakfast with them after the gig.
You were playing with people like Albert King and Little Milton.
Yeah, I was 14 or 15 years old.
It must have been an incredible experience.
Yeah it was. When I got out from there, I realised that this doesn’t go on all over the place – calling people on stage. Artists didn’t do that in Los Angeles. Nobody sat in with anybody. Where I came from, if there was a musician in the room you had to ask them. It would be rude not to. Saxophone players would always bring their own mouth pieces to gigs, because it was all about jamming. When we got out to California and Delaney and I got together, we got into that. It was not just famous people. The worst thing which could happen was they would say no and you would get on with the night. The best response was yeah, let me play!
You were also an Ikette and the first white person to join Ike and Tina Turner’s band.
I didn’t get to stay long because of the racism. But, I’m still in touch with some of them. On the album before last I had the Ikettes singing with me, all three of them. I miss Ike so bad. You know he wrote the liner notes on my last album. He went down in history as an asshole, but he has done so much for our music and none of that is ever mentioned. He had the first rock and roll record ever – ‘Rocket 88’. Nobody gives him that credit yet. There wouldn’t be a Meters without Ike. He broke BB King. He broke most of the black artists. Don’t get me started!
You moved to Los Angeles in 1967. Was it mainly because of the music?
I went to Los Angeles to be a star! Just like everybody else. You either had to go to New York or LA. Although it’s now Austin, Texas.
How did you first meet Delaney?
He was in the houseband (the Shindogs – JH) . I came down from San Francisco. I was hanging and working with Sly Stone before they broke. He was a disc jockey and he put me in touch with this guy, Sam the Soul. I was singing duets with him. We were booked to go down to LA for three weeks. Delaney was in the houseband and they wouldn’t back us. He didn’t want to back a girl, so I told him to go f*** himself. After he heard me sing, he came out and said oh man! We started off on a hard note and I wouldn’t speak to him for a whole week. He was bringing in everybody to hear me sing every night. He brought in Leon Russell and all his friends. Then on the last day, he said “I’m so sorry, can I please have your phone number?”. I said ok. He was drop dead gorgeous (laughs). He came over and we sang, and he never left. We got married seven days later. It was magic. How romantic, huh?
How did Eric Clapton get involved with Delaney and Bonnie?
I think we got involved with him playing on the Blind Faith tour. George Harrison took our tapes back to the UK. Gram Parsons brought George Harrison to hear us. They taped it on a little cassette at the club. George took it back and played it to Eric, and Eric hired us for the Blind Faith tour, to open for them. It was a huge, big break. When we got on the road we were all on the bus, partying and having fun and at that time they (Blind Faith) were not even riding in the same limo together. They just wanted to put this supergroup together and they didn’t give anyone a chance to breath. Eric heard us play and he was up there playing tambourine with us! Can you believe that? They wouldn’t let him play guitar. Eric would ride the bus with us; him and Rick Grech. Steve and Jack Bruce rode the limos. We were full of energy. It was old hat for them. Eric just jumped on the bus and we just had the best time. That’s how we got the “Live On Tour With Eric Clapton” album on Atlantic.
It sounds like a lot of fun.
I don’t know if it was so much more fun than it is now. When you’re doing it, fun is fun! It’s just as much fun for the young ones coming up now. They have to work a little harder than we did. There’s so many of them out there. If wanted white power singers back then, it was me and Janis (Joplin). Now you need to have two or three pages to list them all. I like to think Janis and I had something to do with that.
What was Janis Joplin like?
She was a doll. She was full of pain. She would just try and make it through the day. My heart broke for her, but you know what? She was a good girl. She was a brilliantly educated girl. It’s not about your voice or your vocal ability, it’s about how much ability you have to get up there and be vulnerable. It’s about picking songs you can embrace and interpreting them. That’s what she could do!
Delaney and Bonnie also did the famous ‘Train Tour’ where you took a train across Canada with lots of other musicians.
From Toronto to Calgary! There was The Band, Grateful Dead, Ian and Sylvia, Buddy Guy – everybody! There was everybody you could imagine.
Looking back, you were making music history. Did you ever think that at the time?
Nah! I didn’t think about it. I was just trying to make it through the gig. It was so much fun. I wasn’t thinking about making musical history. I really wasn’t. I’ve always sung. I thought maybe I’ll be famous after I’m dead, like Billy Holiday or Van Gogh. We didn’t think about making musical history.
After you went solo, you cut a record with the Average White Band (Sweet Bonnie Bramlett- JH) – how did you discover them?
Bruce McCaskill, who was Eric Clapton’s road manager, called me one night and played this band to me over the phone. It was a little cassette. I was like ‘oh send this band to me immediately’. So I brought them to the United States and I think I broke them.
You also did a lot of backing vocals during the 70s for people like Greg Allman and Little Feat!
And Carly Simon. You know ‘You’re So Vain’ and Paul and Linda (McCartney), and Doris Troy.
You also sang backing vocals on ‘Giving Up For Your Love’ by Delbert McClinton.
Oh that was so good! I loved it. Delbert has a blues cruise and all the bands are on it. We’re all on the same page when we are there – for the music. Sometimes Delbert would say I need to have a Bramlett sandwich, with Bekka on one side and me on the other, and Delbert in the middle.
You did a lot of acting in the 1980s and 90s.
I didn’t do a lot, but the pieces I did were really good (laughs). I was just learning.
You were in the Doors movie. Did you know Jim Morrison and what did you think of Val Kilmer’s take on him?
I think he did a phenomenal job. I said at the time people are either going to love it or hate it, but it was just like it happened. When were doing the read through of the script and Val was already in character. He came to the reading in a pair of black leather pants and a white t-shirt. I was sitting across the table from him and he reaches over and touches my hand and says did you know Jim Morrison? I said a little. He looked me in the eye and said did you know he was going to die before he did? I said yeah. He was a walking dead man. Sooner or later it would get to him. He was so tortured. He (Val) walked away from the table and he nailed it. I think he did a phenomenal job. Jim was a genius. He was a tortured soul, but he sure made the world a better place musically.
You also appeared in the sitcom Roseanne.
I had so much fun. Roseanne was a fan of mine. She approached me and said she knew every word to every song and said do you want to be one my show? Absolutely! So they wrote me in.
Your Roseanne co-star John Goodman is a bit of a blues singer too?
He’s from South Street, St. Louis as well. Everyday we would sit around the dressing room and jam a little. He lives in New Orleans now. He sure knows his music. He loves it.
Do you still enjoy singing?
It’s like asking me if I enjoy breathing! It’s the thing I do. I enjoy it. Praise God that I can get up every morning and sing my brains out. I’m so blessed. I don’t take it for granted at all. JH